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Date: Jun. 30, 2008
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I go to alot of N.A meetings.  Typically at least seven a week.  Today's meeting was very difficult for me as it is at every meeting where a Higher Power is the main topic of discussion.  

 

I am aware that the program states that a belief in and turning your will and you life over to a higher power is one of the first necessary steps to recovery.  So what am I to do?  I am an atheist.  I do not believe in a god.  

Now I have been coming to these halls for a while now.  And I have been attempting to work the steps.  I can't seem to get past step one though.  I am not willing to turn my life over to the care of god "as I understand him"  Because I don't understand him.  I don't believe in a creator.  I don't believe in Jesus.  I don't believe in buddha.  I believe that we are here on this earth, that we make our decisions and our will is our own.  I do not and cannot believe that some god has a will for me.  

Things happen as a result of cause and effect not because some higher power deems it his will.   I truly believe that.  

 

I'm told, by  many people in this program, that I will not heal unless I change this belief.  Is this true?  I refuse to believe such a thing.   

I have had step one finished for over six months.  I cannot complete step two. I've read it and reread it and come to the same conclusion.  This program is trying to force me to believe in something that I don't believe in. 

While the step doesn't directly say it outright it insinuates in the questions and in the reading that not believing in a higher power is being close minded.    I have been brainwashed by parents and shrinks my entire life, and I feel that this is another attempt at that. I feel like an attempt is being made to make me feel like I am wrong.  My beliefs and the way I feel isn't wrong.  If there is one thing I learned in the years of therapy I've been subjected to it is that my feelings are not wrong.  

I want this program to work.  I want to work the steps.  I strongly feel however, that I cannot continue the steps if Becoming religious or believing in a higher power is a necessity.

Because of this I started attending A.A. meetings thinking that maybe they wouldn't be as adamant about the whole higher power thing.  I found it to be worse.  The continuously say "God of YOUR understanding."  At the end of the meeting the chant the Lords Prayer.  A religion specific prayer.  How is that a god of my understanding?

 

I guess the bottom line is am an atheist.  I have never, for as long as I can remember, believed in something that I have had no tangible evidence of its existence.                                             With that being said, where do I go from here?






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From: DevinD
June 30, 2008, 7:25 pm

When I started in recovery the treatment center I went to didn't use the 12 steps. The guy that started it had us read things like the 4 agreements and the power of now, we did therapy, and we worked on becoming more spiritual (i.e nature walks, group meditation, art therapy to let the kid inside out). The things I learned from those two books and from treatment have been the biggest part of my recovery. When I moved away and I couldn't do aftercare anymore i found NA. I use meetings as a way to build on a support group, talk things out, and practice listening to people. The rest of the stuff meetings push... well they do say take what will help and leave the rest behind.



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From: pg77
June 30, 2008, 11:09 am

Wow, great story. Kinda sounds a little like me. I had the same trouble when I first got here.I n fact, that GOD word turned me away a few times. But this last time that I arrived, something different happened. I found out that I don't have to believe in a GOD. I can still recover.

That is why this 12 step program is so cool. We can all recover, no matter what. No where in the steps does it say that I have to believe in GOD. The word God is used because of a lack of a better word. The steps talk about a GOD as WE understand him. Not as I understand him. I surely can't understand something like that. What that tells me, since no 2 people can agree 100 percent what this GOD is, is that when we get into a circle in a meeting and talk about the recovery principles, there seems to be a power there that is like no other I have ever seen or felt.

My sponsor told me how to work the second step. He said to go to meetings and look for proof that we do recover. I feel this power when I see the newcomer in the room all of a sudden get a little hope and a gleam comes back into his eye. I feel that feeling when someone picks up a clean time tag. I feel it when someone shares about getting a job - finally. I feel it when someone shares about being excepted back into their own home. I feel it when a man gets to hug his child after months of being restrained from seeing his family. I feel it when a person gets a drivers license back. That is the "god that we understand".

So that hope of being returned to sanity is believing that if it can work for them, then maybe, just maybe, it might work for me. Thats all there is to that step for me.

The 3rd step is just making a decision to try it that way. The NA third step prayer is "Take my will and my life, Guide me in my recovery, show me how to live." That is how my home group opens and closes the meeting. When we circle up at the end of the meeting, it doesn't matter how we believe or if we believe. As long as I believe that the steps can work for me too.

The way that I follow up on my 3rd step decision is to go on with the 4th step.  

Take care and I hope to see you here again.

Phil

 



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